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# [Episode 4: Delve Risk's Anthony Johnson](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/cyber5_episode4)

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Episode 3 of the podcast focuses on the CISO's perspective on the importance of understanding the corporate network environment and features Anthony Johnson, Managing Partner of Delve Risk.

Outline:

- **(00:22) Introductions**
- **(01:07) Question 1 ** **–** As a CISO, if I don’t have clear or accurate insight into the state of my assets and infrastructure, what immediate risks am I incurring?
- **(02:23) Question** **2** **–** You’ve started a role as a CISO at a new company - how do you test the information your presented with around the the network, the current state of the security team and tech stack, and when do you trust it?
- **(03:21) Question 3** **–** In your experience, what percentage of the network do you think the average CISO and team have a good handle on and are there trends in the gaps?
- **(05:51) Question 4** **–** Are there any trivial gaps - How complete should a CISO’s knowledge and insight into their environment be; IE If they’re confident on 80% of the network, is that enough?
- **(08:43) Question 5** **–** How has the emphasis on maintaining a meaningful understanding of your network impacted your strategy around the staffing/teams that you’ve built?
- **(10:53) Recap & Takeaways** 

 

 

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