--- title: "Episode 23: Using Automation for Stronger SOC Collaboration with Scythe CTO Jorge Orchilles" description: Episode 23 of the podcast covers automation for stronger cyber threat intelligence, red team, and blue team collaboration. image: https://blog.nisos.com/hubfs/Podcast__Logo%20(TM)%20+%20Nisos-Jul-24-2020-08-57-46-75-AM.png --- - [Home](https://www.nisos.com/) - Solutions - [Manage Human Risk](https://nisos.com/solutions/human-risk/) - [Protect Online Platforms](https://www.nisos.com/solutions/trust-safety/) - [Manage Cybersecurity Risks](https://www.nisos.com/solutions/cybersecurity/) - [Protect Executives, Assets, and Reputation](https://www.nisos.com/solutions/corporate-security/) - [Secure the Employee Lifecycle](https://nisos.com/solutions/workforce-risk/) - Services - [Human Risk](https://nisos.com/services/human-risk/) - [Employment Shield](https://nisos.com/services/employment-shield/) - [Executive Shield](https://nisos.com/services/executive-shield/) - [Third-Party Intelligence Solutions](https://nisos.com/services/third-party-intelligence-solutions/) - [Insider Threat Intelligence Solutions](https://nisos.com/services/executive-shield/) - [Risk Assessment](https://www.nisos.com/services/risk-assessments/) - [Threat Landscape](https://www.nisos.com/services/threat-landscape-assessment/) - [Threat Monitoring](https://www.nisos.com/services/threat-monitoring/) - [OSINT Monitoring & Analysis](https://www.nisos.com/services/osint-monitoring-and-analysis/) - [Investigations](https://www.nisos.com/services/investigations/) - [Adversary Investigation](https://www.nisos.com/services/adversary-insights/) - Company - [About Us](https://nisos.com/company/about-us/) - [The Nisos Difference](https://nisos.com/company/the-nisos-difference/) - [Client Success](https://nisos.com/company/client-success/) - [Careers](https://www.nisos.com/company/about-the-company/careers/) - Resources - [News](https://www.nisos.com/newsroom/) - [Blog](https://www.nisos.com/nisos-blog/) - [Events](https://www.nisos.com/events/) - [Resource Library](https://www.nisos.com/resources/library/) - [Podcasts](https://www.nisos.com/podcasts/) - [Contact](https://www.nisos.com/contact/) [![Nisos-Logo-Blue](https://blog.nisos.com/hubfs/Nisos-Logo-Blue.png) ![Nisos-Logo-White](https://blog.nisos.com/hubfs/Nisos-Logo-White.png) ![Nisos-Logo-Blue](https://blog.nisos.com/hubfs/Nisos-Logo-Blue.png)](https://www.nisos.com/) - [Default HubSpot Blog](https://blog.nisos.com/blog) - [Home](https://www.nisos.com/) - Solutions - [Manage Human Risk](https://nisos.com/solutions/human-risk/) - [Protect Online Platforms](https://www.nisos.com/solutions/trust-safety/) - [Manage Cybersecurity Risks](https://www.nisos.com/solutions/cybersecurity/) - [Protect Executives, Assets, and Reputation](https://www.nisos.com/solutions/corporate-security/) - [Secure the Employee Lifecycle](https://nisos.com/solutions/workforce-risk/) - Services - [Human Risk](https://nisos.com/services/human-risk/) - [Employment Shield](https://nisos.com/services/employment-shield/) - [Executive Shield](https://nisos.com/services/executive-shield/) - [Third-Party Intelligence Solutions](https://nisos.com/services/third-party-intelligence-solutions/) - [Insider Threat Intelligence Solutions](https://nisos.com/services/executive-shield/) - [Risk Assessment](https://www.nisos.com/services/risk-assessments/) - [Threat Landscape](https://www.nisos.com/services/threat-landscape-assessment/) - [Threat Monitoring](https://www.nisos.com/services/threat-monitoring/) - [OSINT Monitoring & Analysis](https://www.nisos.com/services/osint-monitoring-and-analysis/) - [Investigations](https://www.nisos.com/services/investigations/) - [Adversary Investigation](https://www.nisos.com/services/adversary-insights/) - Company - [About Us](https://nisos.com/company/about-us/) - [The Nisos Difference](https://nisos.com/company/the-nisos-difference/) - [Client Success](https://nisos.com/company/client-success/) - [Careers](https://www.nisos.com/company/about-the-company/careers/) - Resources - [News](https://www.nisos.com/newsroom/) - [Blog](https://www.nisos.com/nisos-blog/) - [Events](https://www.nisos.com/events/) - [Resource Library](https://www.nisos.com/resources/library/) - [Podcasts](https://www.nisos.com/podcasts/) - [Contact](https://www.nisos.com/contact/) ### Solutions Managed Intelligence solutions are designed to address your needs in an evolving risk landscape. 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Why or why not? - **(07:56) Question 4)** What’s a role automation can play to better remediate between numerous stakeholders following a red team? What are some of the challenges with automating behavior as well as malicious adversary tools and TTPs? Is it difficult to automate specific cyber actors? - **(16:53) Question 5)** How can red teams and threat intelligence teams be combining their skillsets and efforts more efficiently?       ---   Topics: [podcast](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/topic/podcast) [cyber5](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/topic/cyber5) ##### Written by [Nisos](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/author/nisos) ###### [Previous Post](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/cyber5_episode22_ransomware_negotiations) [![](https://blog.nisos.com/hubfs/Podcast__Logo%20(TM)%20+%20Nisos-Jul-24-2020-09-01-41-96-AM.png)](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/cyber5_episode22_ransomware_negotiations) ###### [Episode 22: Ransomware Negotiations and Risk Management with Crypsis Group VP Art Ehuan](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/cyber5_episode22_ransomware_negotiations) ###### [Next Post](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/cyber5_episode24_how_much_intel_does_a_ciso_need) [![](https://blog.nisos.com/hubfs/Podcast__Logo%20(TM)%20+%20Nisos-Jul-24-2020-08-47-07-06-AM.png)](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/cyber5_episode24_how_much_intel_does_a_ciso_need) ###### [Episode 24: How Much Intelligence a CISO Needs with Threat Researcher Jamie Kane](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast/cyber5_episode24_how_much_intel_does_a_ciso_need) ### Post a Comment ### Featured ![](https://blog.nisos.com/hubfs/Nisos-Logo-White.png) Responsive strategies and intelligent defenses for protecting your enterprise. - Services - Managed Intelligence - Security Investigations - Why Nisos - Company - Resources - [Blog](https://blog.nisos.com/blog) - [Case Studies](https://blog.nisos.com/case-studies) - [White Papers](https://blog.nisos.com/technical-blogs) - [Podcast](https://blog.nisos.com/podcast) - [News](https://blog.nisos.com/news) - Contact ###### Contact Us [1-703-382-8400](tel:1-703-382-8400) [info@nisos.com](mailto:info@nisos.com) 603 King Street, Suite 300 Alexandria, VA 22314 [![Learn More](https://no-cache.hubspot.com/cta/default/6068438/043dbe58-e265-499f-8574-2e0d1b4d410e.png)](https://cta-redirect.hubspot.com/cta/redirect/6068438/043dbe58-e265-499f-8574-2e0d1b4d410e) ©2020 Nisos. 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